I’ve been using Victory Super Dry for a while now, love it. The hold is enough for most things. Feels natural. But if the wind blows it’s destroyed. The Uppercut hair clay has what I need. Definitely more holding power. Super thick to put on so be ware. It’s like playing with tree sap but once you spread it, low sheen, great holding power, last all day and you can re arm it in the morning if needed with a few strokes and a little water. I will say it is a bitch to get out. Scrubbing with shampoo for a little bit for sure. Other than that, I still roll my Victory Super dry most days or under a hat. But when I’m rollin hard on a night out or playing sports, Upper Cut fo shizzle. If you want natural looking holding power with out the hairspray, gel clump and shine, this is what you need. Just a finger nail worth and you’re good to go like a Taco Bell crunch wrap supreme.